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    <title>Welfare Dons</title>
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    <published>2009-08-28T14:30:19Z</published>
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    <summary><![CDATA[Remember the phrase "welfare moms?"&nbsp;It was a phrase designed to attack the very idea of government programs by suggesting that taxpayers all over the country were subsidizing people who were too lazy to work. &nbsp;Well, in the current debate about...]]></summary>
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        <![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/pfizer%20mario%20tama%20getty.jpg"><img alt="pfizer mario tama getty.jpg" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/08/pfizer%20mario%20tama%20getty-thumb-250x176-13512.jpg" class="mt-image-right" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px; float: right;" height="176" width="250" /></a></span>Remember the phrase "welfare moms?"&nbsp;<div><br /></div><div>It was a phrase designed to attack the very idea of government programs by suggesting that taxpayers all over the country were subsidizing people who were too lazy to work. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Well, in the current debate about health care reform, it may be time to coin a new phrase: Welfare Dons. They are the lazy, shiftless recipients of corporate welfare who have made America's health care system the most expensive and inefficient in the world. Let's take a look.</div><div><br /></div><div>For some time, we have been told, in the words of Ronald Reagan, that government is not the solution; government is the problem. Private enterprise is good; government is bad.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>But it's been getting confusing lately as free market fundamentalists, such as the Republican Michael Steele, have been touting the value of Medicare (a government program that happens to be popular), while denigrating government's ability to deliver good health care. &nbsp;There is a reason for this. &nbsp;In the eyes of most Republicans and some Blue Dog Democrats, Medicare is a $2.6 trillion-dollar piggy bank for the medical Welfare Dons: drug-producers, device-makers, medical conglomerates, insurance companies, and manufacturers of high-tech diagnostic equipment. &nbsp;By touting Medicare and denigrating government, the goal is to get government out of the business of protecting taxpayer dollars and hand over the keys to the Medicare piggy bank to corporations who want to be able to set high prices and mandate expensive procedures. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Don't believe me? Set the wayback machine to the passage of the Medicare Modernization Act, a bill that was literally written by lobbyists and passed by a determined Tom Delay and Billy Tauzin. (Yes, this is the same Billy Tauzin - another Welfare Don - who is now paid millions of dollars by Pharma and who was caught smiling - like a cat with a canary in its mouth - walking out of the Obama White house after saying he had cut a "deal" to keep government out of the business of forcing discounted prices.) In that bill, the federal government was prohibited from using its size and clout to negotiate with drug companies. &nbsp;Why? Well, that would have reduced profits and, oh yes, the cost of drugs. &nbsp;Instead, Medicare became a piggy bank that dispensed corporate welfare to Pharma in the form of high drug costs to US citizens. &nbsp;Yet Big Pharma doesn't really need our help; most of the big pharmaceutical firms take home profit margins of 16%.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>But looting the public treasury for Pharma wasn't enough for the Welfare Dons. &nbsp;They also put in place a program for insurers called Medicare Advantage, a government hand-out of $16 billion (a trifle really) to compensate private insurers for the cost of offering Medicare to patients. In other words, the Welfare Dons took $16 billion from taxpayers to give to private insurers as a bonus for offering a government program! &nbsp;Then insurers hiked co-pays. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="3704917769_c7547092f9_m.jpg" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/3704917769_c7547092f9_m.jpg" class="mt-image-left" style="margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt; float: left;" height="180" width="240" /></span>If you are a Welfare Don, how good is that! &nbsp;Now, just imagine how good it would be if you could keep taxpayer dollars flowing to Medicare but eliminate any barriers to how it is dispensed. &nbsp;What's that called? &nbsp;Killing the public option. &nbsp;Booyah!&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The fact is that, in a mixed system where private enterprise and public monies inhabit the same space, inefficiency and extravagance are profitable. &nbsp;Remember the military industrial complex? &nbsp;Private contractors make profits by charging the government for cost overruns. &nbsp;Defense contractors call this "cost plus." &nbsp;Pharma calls it "No Public Option." &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Why is it that free marketeers are so afraid of competing with a government program which, in their religion, is inherently inefficient?&nbsp;Well who wants to compete with a public option that won't take 10-20% in overhead, lobbying costs, administration costs and profit? &nbsp;That's my bonus, dude. &nbsp;Whoops, I mean, I have a fiduciary responsibility to deliver the highest possible return to my shareholders.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>And who wants to compete with a public option that won't just pay whatever drug-makers or others charge, without inquiring into the quality of the service or the product? Here's where the insurance companies really fail us. They over-pay hospitals, specialists and drug companies and then raise premiums to cover the costs. &nbsp;Further, when they pay hospitals 115% of what it should cost to care for a patient they are paying for inefficiency that can be dangerous. My mother, for example, went to a hospital for a simple procedure and died from an infection she caught there. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>In the case of drugs, the problems can be even more troubling. To get discounts on some drugs, private insurers are willing to pay top prices for blockbuster pharmaceuticals like Vioxx, despite the fact that Vioxx was rumored to cause fatal strokes and heart attacks. &nbsp;Contrast this with the Veterans Administration (a government program that is actually interested in the welfare of patients) and the Mayo Clinic (a non-profit that worries about patients, not shareholders), both of whom stopped covering Vioxx for most patients more than a year before the manufacturer, &nbsp;Merck, was finally forced to take the drug off the market. &nbsp;And who did the forcing? It was that old, arcane, inefficient outfit that still worries about the public welfare, the government. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Welfare moms were mocked for doing nothing. The Welfare Dons are sensitive to charges of doing nothing (denying care to sick people, or people with preexisting conditions) so they have a slightly different m.o.: do something, even if it isn't necessary. Insurance companies pay big bucks for procedures but next to nothing for patient consultations and preventive medicine, which is what most medicine is. That's why - with the exception of what Don Berwick, from the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, calls "rescue care" (emergency surgery, radical cancer treatments, etc) - our health care outcomes are significantly worse than other fully industrialized nations even though we spend much more. More Ka-Ching! for the Welfare Dons. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>But don't believe me. Ask the doctors who administer health care in this country. They speak in a new <a href="http://amcblogmte4.atlantic-media.us/mt-42/mt.cgi?__mode=view&amp;_type=entry&amp;id=18910&amp;blog_id=30">film</a> that I produced, "<a href="http://www.moneydrivenmedicine.org/">Money Driven Medicine,</a>" which will air in a shortened form on "<a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal">Bill Moyers Journal</a>" on August 28. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Of course, one big difference between welfare moms and Welfare Dons is that the WDs are very politically powerful. And why is that? Well, our current Senators and congresspeople now spend up to half their time raising money for increasingly expensive elections. &nbsp;And who can supply that money? Why it's the Welfare Dons. This is where things get really good for the Welfare Dons. They can publicly denigrate government and show their contempt for it by treating it as a commodity that can be bought and sold. And what does the government do in return? It gives the Welfare Dons a big fat welfare check.</div><div><br /></div><div>In criminal justice, this is called a protection racket. After all, while the term "Don" means a person of great importance, it also means the head of a crime family or syndicate. That's Welfare Don Corleone. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>"The Godfather" was one of lobbyist Jack Abramoff's favorite films. That's the subject of my next film, "Casino Jack (and the United States of Money)." &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div>(Photo: <font size="2">Mario Tama/Getty Images</font>, Flickr User leoncillo sabino)<br />]]>
        
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    <title>Heaven and Hell</title>
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    <published>2009-08-08T07:54:13Z</published>
    <updated>2009-08-09T00:25:35Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[My Apologies to those who have been wondering where my blog has been.Fact is: I was filming the Tour de France for a documentary on Lance Armstrong I am directing for Sony Pictures. &nbsp;Yet, early in the morning on every...]]></summary>
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        <![CDATA[<div>My Apologies to those who have been wondering where my blog has been.</div><div><br /></div><div>Fact is: I was filming the Tour de France for a documentary on Lance Armstrong I am directing for Sony Pictures. &nbsp;Yet, early in the morning on every stage, when I was supposed to be blogging, I was working on the editing of two other films I have been working on, "My Trip to Al Qaeda," based on a play by Lawrence Wright, and "Casino Jack (and the United States of Money)" about Jack Abramoff and the ongoing political corruption scandal in Washington. &nbsp;Now that the editing of "My Trip to Al Qaeda" has been finished, I can resume some blogging. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>first up - the beginning of a blog I started in France, coupled with many pictures from the Tour.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Here I am with cinematographer Maryse Alberti ("The Wrestler," "Enron: the Smartest Guys in the Room"; "Taxi to the Dark Side") and Sound Recordist and Grand Prix Driver Rob Davis, on top of legendary Mont Ventoux. &nbsp;Note that we are facing away from the action...</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/P1000411.JPG"><img alt="P1000411.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/08/P1000411-thumb-600x450-12573.jpg" width="600" height="450" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>What follows was originally written on July 11:&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div>Filming the Tour De France is somewhere between heaven and hell - a peculiar kind of purgatory.<div><br /></div><div>First of all, glimpsed from the window screens of our camera car, there are the trailers of heaven: scenes of Monaco; the cathedral of Gerona; the architectural wonders of Barcelona and the vista of Font de Magica high above the Plaza Espana; the craggy drama of Pyrenees. &nbsp;And this is just the beginning. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>But filming the tour is some kind of hell. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>We have seven cameras here. &nbsp;One is in the Astana Team car capturing the instructions to the riders of the legendary Directeur Sportif, Johan Bruyneel. &nbsp;One is on a motorcycle following the riders. Four are out on the course at various times and one is an extremely lightweight camera that we were able to put on the bike of one of the Astana team members (more on that later).</div><div><br /></div><div>Every morning most of our team gathers to plan for the day. &nbsp;One crew usually starts filming at the Astana bus, where the crush of fans seeking a glimpse of Lance Armstrong is inexorable. The other crew gathers a bit of the daily circus around the starting gate. Jimmy Buffet, who made a brief cameo appearance in Barcelona, rightly calls the Tour Mardi Gras on wheels.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Out on road, things get complicated. &nbsp;The very best shots of the riders - head-on closeups - are mostly forbidden because a motorcycle in front of a rider can give him a draft. Also, for safety, the number of cars near the riders must be limited. &nbsp;So, every day, in two press cars, our two teams set out on the "Hors Course" - the side route - to find a fast way around to get ahead of the race course to secure camera positions for the fleeting moments when the riders fly by.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Care must be taken to avoid the Caravan Publicitaire, a nightmarish fleet of commercial floats, honking their horns, thumping bass-heavy music and showcasing hot young women throwing swag to drunken fans. &nbsp;In a reversal of the Odyssey's Sirens, these hotties are the ones who are harnessed, tethered to the posts under the plaster statues lest they go flying into the crowds when the float driver takes a wicked turn down a switchback. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The Caravan precedes the riders on the race course by an hour or so. &nbsp;In trying to find our camera positions, it's tough to weave in and out of the floats. &nbsp;So we try to precede the caravan. &nbsp;When we find a spot, we set up two cameras - usually one with a telephoto lens and one with a wide angle - to capture what we hope will be a "moment." We have a list of shots we are looking for - full peleton, breakaways, etc. - but we are also ready to capture whatever might happen.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Here's the drag. &nbsp;Once in a spot, we have to sit there for hours waiting for the race. Now that's not all bad. &nbsp;The fans are interesting - particularly if we catch them on a rising high before their stash of beers takes them to raucous oblivion. They come from all over and as far away as Australia. &nbsp;In Andorra, we met Basques, Catalans, French, Italians, Germans, Dutch...Yesterday, we positioned ourselves next to the van of El Diablo. &nbsp;He's a German "fan" who follows the Tour in his fan, getting smellier stage by stage. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>During the time trial in Annecy, he got a French network car bounced from the tour when he hitched a ride and then mooned the crowd in front of the race director. In the pictures below, you can see him sneak his way into a photo of me and the former editor (he's been kicked upstairs at Rodale Publishing) of Bicycling Magazine, Steve Madden.</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/stg18_steve%20madden_tdf09.jpg"><img alt="stg18_steve madden_tdf09.jpg" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/08/stg18_steve madden_tdf09-thumb-600x586-12568.jpg" width="600" height="586" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div>Here's the start of a picture gallery:&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Stage One - Monaco - &nbsp;Lance Armstrong in the daily crush of reporters and his fans: &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/P1000202.JPG"><img alt="P1000202.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/08/P1000202-thumb-600x450-12571.jpg" width="600" height="450" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Monaco. &nbsp;Lance Armstrong, in his hotel room, after his ride in the Prologue, watching Alberto Contador on his ride:&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/IMG_0360.JPG"><img alt="IMG_0360.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/08/IMG_0360-thumb-600x450-12577.jpg" width="600" height="450" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div>The mass of bikes in Montpellier.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/P1000218.JPG"><img alt="P1000218.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/08/P1000218-thumb-600x450-12579.jpg" width="600" height="450" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div>More later...</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>]]>
        
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    <title>The Tour de France</title>
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    <published>2009-07-09T05:37:29Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-10T06:50:51Z</updated>

    <summary>Today I am in Barcelona, following Lance Armstrong&apos;s return to the Tour de France for a documentary I am doing for Sony Pictures.  I am not a cycling expert, so do not expect unusual insights into the minutiae of strategy....</summary>
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        <![CDATA[Today I am in Barcelona, following Lance Armstrong's return to the Tour de France for a <a href="http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-armstrong7-2009jul07,0,5063722.story">documentary</a> I am doing for Sony Pictures.  <div><br /></div><div>I am not a cycling expert, so do not expect unusual insights into the minutiae of strategy.  However, in the course of doing the film I have come to love the sport and this extraordinary event in particular. </div><div><br /></div><div>Of the 21 stages in this event, today's will be critical.  It is the first climb of the race from Barcelona to Andorra, a small landlocked tax haven nestled in the Pyrenees mountains.  (According to Wikipedia, Andorra has the highest life expectancy - 85 years - in the world.  Gee, Grover Norquist must be right: taxes will kill you.)  Climbing stages - along with time trials - are key opportunities for riders to open up big time gaps on their opponents.  Even more than usual, this stage is important because it will likely be head-to-head battle between Lance Armstrong and his Astana teammate and key rival in this race, Alberto Contador. </div><div><br /></div><div>So far, the race has not disappointed.  In the first stage, in Monaco, Lance Armstrong appeared to be strong but not dominant as in years past.  He placed 10th in this short time trial, a twisty 13-kilometer course through the hilly streets of Monaco.  But three of his teammates, including Contador, had significantly better times.  So much so that one member of the group pronounced that the tour was over for Armstrong!  How could he make up 22 seconds on his teammate Contador?  (22 seconds doesn't sound like a lot but, between team members, it can be a big number.) </div><div><br /></div><div>Well tell that to Armstrong. </div><div><br /></div><div>On stage three, Armstrong staged a roaring comeback.  On a windy course, he sensed an opportunity.  "I was about forty guys back and I saw a hard right turn up ahead."  Suffering under a hard headwind, Armstrong knew that if he turned hard, he would be freed up by a crosswind.  "I was like, I better move up," he said.  He broke free from the main pack of riders called the peleton, and followed a group of riders in a breakaway.  Leaving his rival Contador back in the peleton, Armstrong bulled forward with a group of riders that included two members of his team and a former teammate and friend, George Hincapie. (In the Tour De France, it is not uncommon for riders from different teams to form temporary alliances.) By the time he crossed the finish line, Armstrong was 19 seconds up on Contador. </div><div><br /></div><div>Responding to criticism that he may have ignored calls for restraint from his coach, Johan Bruynel - who wanted to to save his riders' strength for the team time trial the following day - Armstrong noted that he just saw an opening and took it. Luck, as they say, is where opportunity meets the prepared mind. </div><div><br /></div><div>But today is the big day: There will be attacks by other riders and, possibly, a showdown between the 37-year old Armstrong and the extraordinarily talented 26-year old Contador. </div><div><br /></div><div>Avanti.</div><div><br /></div>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Back and Forth</title>
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    <published>2009-06-11T14:21:22Z</published>
    <updated>2009-06-11T14:30:25Z</updated>

    <summary>I just read the blog of fellow Atlantic correspondent Lane Wallace, in which she raised important issues about photographs and quibbled with my digs at semioticians in a blog I wrote about photos of detainee abuse.  She notes that photographs...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[I just read the blog of fellow Atlantic correspondent Lane Wallace, in which she raised important issues about photographs and quibbled with my digs at semioticians in a <a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/2009/05/photos_lie_-_and_they_also_tell_the_truth_release_them.php">blog</a> I wrote about photos of detainee abuse.  She notes that photographs will be interpreted differently by different people.<div><br /></div><div>As it happens, I agree.  </div><div><br /></div><div>But that does not mean that we should allow our government to withhold the release of the photos.  We can't interpret photos if we can't see them. </div><div><br /></div><div>Another key point: most, if not all, of the photos that the ACLU is asking to be released are not photos of Abu Ghraib at all.  They are photos from other US-controlled prisons.  Therefore, these photos may have quite a bit to say about whether there was a worldwide policy of detainee abuse.</div>]]>
        
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    <title>Big Business Can Be Hazardous to Your Health</title>
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    <id>tag:correspondents.theatlantic.com,2009:/alex_gibney//30.18910</id>

    <published>2009-06-08T12:45:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-06-11T14:17:48Z</updated>

    <summary>I recently produced a film, called &quot;Money-Driven Medicine,&quot; based on the book of the same name by Maggie Mahar, which looks at the way that our business model for medicine has badly damaged the patient doctor relationship. &quot;What&apos;s that?&quot; you...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[I recently produced a film, called "Money-Driven Medicine," based on the book of the same name by Maggie Mahar, which looks at the way that our business model for medicine has badly damaged the patient doctor relationship.

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<div><br /></div><div><div><br /></div><div>"What's that?" you may say.  I thought that it was those damn government bureaucrats that were trying to get in between me and my doctor. </div><div><br /></div><div>Well, the director of this film, Andy Fredericks, followed doctors all over the country who are deeply frustrated that the current system, whose goals favor profits over good, efficient and humane health care.   In one scene, for example, a hospital refuses to share a possibly life-saving protocol with another hospital for fear it would lose its "competitive advantage." In many other sequences, doctors complain that, in the current system, they are forced to embrace wasteful and expensive (and extremely profitable) procedures while patients wonder why it is that they can quickly get expensive tests - like MRIs - but have to wait weeks to see primary care physicians (who are the most in demand) because so few doctors can afford to become general practitioners. </div><div><br /></div><div>"Money-Driven Medicine" explores how a profit-driven health care system squanders billions of health care dollars, while exposing millions of patients to unnecessary or redundant tests, unproven, sometimes unwanted procedures, and over-priced drugs and devices that, too often are no better than the less expensive products that they have replaced.  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; "></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"><br /></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; ">More than two decades of research done by the <a href="http:www.dartmouthatlas.org/atlases/2008_Chronic_Care_Atlas.pdf">Dartmouth Institute for Health Policy and Clinical Practice</a>  reveals that <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: line-through;">one out of three</span> roughly one-third of our health care dollars - or nearly $<span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: line-through;">600</span> 900 billion of the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: line-through;">$</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: line-through;">1.7</span> $2.6 trillion that we spend annually - is wasted on products and procedures that provide <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">no </span>benefit to the patient. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; "><br />"But this isn't just a waste of money.  This is hazardous waste - waste that is hazardous to  our health," says Mahar, a healthcare fellow at the Century Foundation where she writes the <a href="http://www.healthbeatblog.org">healthbeat blog</a>. <br /><br />"When a patient is subjected to an ineffective treatment he is, by definition exposed to risk without benefit. We need to squeeze this waste out of the system. If we do, we have enough money to provide high quality, affordable and sustainable care for everyone." </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"><br /></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;">Here's a clip from the film, in which Dr. Don Berwick, warns about the dangers of an unregulated competitive "war," in which, too often, the patient is "collateral damage."  
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</span></div><div><br /></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;">In the days ahead, as insurance companies and pharmaceutical firms try to prevent any "government interference" in health care, it will be important to remember, that the goal of our health care system is not to reward providers; it is to deliver the best and most cost-effective health care to patients.  Assuming that profit-oriented corporations always have patients' best interests at heart could be a fatal mistake. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"><br /></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"><br /></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"><br /></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;"><br /></span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div>]]>
        
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    <title>Photos Lie - and They Also Tell the Truth. Release Them.</title>
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    <published>2009-05-29T13:00:43Z</published>
    <updated>2009-05-29T13:55:28Z</updated>

    <summary>Yesterday, Antonio Taguba described some of the Abu Ghraib photos of detainee abuse that President Obama is refusing to release as a way for arguing for Obama&apos;s point of view.  Do images of rape and sexual abuse from Abu Ghraib...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[Yesterday, Antonio Taguba described some of the Abu Ghraib photos of detainee abuse that President Obama is refusing to release as a way for arguing for Obama's point of view.  Do images of rape and sexual abuse from Abu Ghraib really help a further understanding of anything?<div><br /></div><div>I hold Gen. Taguba - who conducted the most thorough investigation to date into Abu Ghraib - in the highest regard.  But I am mystified by his remarks.  </div><div><br /></div><div>The fact is that these photos are not just from Abu Ghraib.  They are, purportedly, over 200 images from six different prisons.  They can tell us a lot about the system of detainee abuse engendered by the Bush Administration.  As one who helped to make public some of the only photos from the Bagram Prison, I can testify to the fact that the photos we uncovered taught us a <a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/2009/05/why_the_photos_are_important.php">great deal</a>. </div><div><br /></div><div>Gen. Taguba has argued for prosecuting Bush officials for war crimes.  But to prosecute crimes, one must have evidence.  Pictures that might show how "techniques" of abuse were similar in different US prisons are critical pieces of evidence because they indicate patterns which, in turn, are clues to policy decisions.  Refusing to release the photos is tantamount to suppressing evidence of a criminal conspiracy.  </div><div><br /></div><div>In a recent New York Times op-ed, Philip Gourevitch also twists himself into rhetorical pretzels in arguing against the release of the photos.  On the one hand, he says that the original release of the photos was extraordinarily valuable: "they told us something that we suspected about ourselves but did not know," he said.  At the same time, he noted that he didn't show many of the more offensive pictures that he and filmmaker Errol Morris ("SOP") and many other filmmakers and TV producers, including myself, did obtain.  "Crime scene photographs," he wrote, "for all their power to reveal, can also serve as a distraction, even a deterrent, from precise understanding of the events they depict."  </div><div><br /></div><div>That is certainly true.  But it is also misleading.  </div><div><br /></div><div>One can get hung up on the duality of semioticians, until one day, you wake up and nothing means anything anymore. </div><div><br /></div><div>The fact is that these photographs, in conjunction with other bits of evidence - including the documents that the Obama Administration properly released - can still teach us a great deal.  Further, a release of the photos probably does not prefigure their display on cereal boxes.  Newspaper editors, bloggers, TV and Film Producers will still exercise judgement about whether the release of some photos merely amounts to a pornographic display, rather than leading to a greater public understanding. </div><div><br /></div><div>We shouldn't allow the government to shape its own narrative about crimes that have been committed in our name.  Through good judgement and analysis, American citizens should be able to have the opportunity to work out the forensic and cultural meaning of these photographs. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>]]>
        
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    <title>Gitmo Solutions: Super Size Them!</title>
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    <published>2009-05-26T12:14:06Z</published>
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    <summary> In recent days, members of Congress have been &quot;shocked, shocked,&quot; to use the words and cynical meaning of Claude Rains in &quot;Casablanca,&quot; to learn that Barack Obama might consider bringing some of &quot;the worst of the worst&quot; from the...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[ <div>In recent days, members of Congress have been "shocked, shocked," to use the words and cynical meaning of Claude Rains in "Casablanca," to learn that Barack Obama might consider bringing some of "the worst of the worst" from the SuperMax cells of Guantanamo to the mainland United States (for some reason no one has mentioned Hawaii).  These prisoners fall into two camps - those who are completely or mostly innocent (but really angry now because they've been held in Guantanamo for up to seven years) or the very few really bad guys - like Khalid Sheik Mohammed - who may be tried in one of the many legal systems that Obama is rigging (less blatantly than Bush) to insure conviction.  </div><div><br /></div><div>Well, here are a few proposals to solve the political problems of the esteemed and principled Representatives and Senators like Lindsey Graham, who recently announced that it might be necessary to bring Gitmo detainees to the US, so long as they didn't land anywhere close to South Carolina. </div><div><br /></div><div>Modest Proposal #1: Eat Them.</div><div><br /></div><div>OK, you're saying, this is a bit extreme.  After all, these men are living breathing human beings.  Well, don't worry: We would kill them first. </div><div><br /></div><div>There are a number of benefits to this approach.  First of all, we would eliminate any evidence of wrongdoing.  For those nitpicky Europeans, who are always decrying Guantanamo, let them try to lecture us if they can't find the bodies.  With sated smiles, we could honestly say:  "What detainees?" And no self-flagellating moral qualms.  After all, most God-fearing Americans say Grace before dinner.  Pick one: "bless this food that we have before us."  "Now we lay them down to sleep." "Bless us, O Commander-in-Chief, and thy gifts, which we have received from your hunters bulging with bounty." </div><div><br /></div><div>This proposal also addresses certain budgetary issues in a time of record deficits.  As many of us know, Gitmo pampered detainees.  When they first arrived, many of these enemy combatants were sickly and thin as rails.  Then we fattened them up.  When I visited Gitmo, a proud officer let our package tour group know that, for compliant detainees, there was "ice cream night, Pizza night and Pepsi night."  I was fit to be tied.  How much was I paying for this "Pepsi for perps" program?   In my new proposal, we'd be getting something back for our tax dollars.  All the junk food that caused these towelheads to gain so much weight, well...now these chickens have come home to roast!  </div><div><br /></div><div>Worth its weight in Mint Chip, this proposal is revenue positive and consistent with Grover Norquist's tax pledge: put your mouth where your money is. </div><div><br /></div><div>OK, you say, I'm all for eating these guys - so long as the meat pies aren't all thumbs - but what about the distasteful task of killing them.  Wouldn't that upset our boys and girls in uniform.  Right about that.  Also, there aren't really enough of them to set up a proper Arab Abbattoir.  Luckily, we have a good solution that has been proven in the field.  We arm Dick Cheney with a shotgun, give him "one or two beers," in his words, and then the rest is taken care of with a small cartage fee.  </div><div><br /></div><div>Now, on to marketing.  Let's face it, when it comes to selling food, "the worst of the worst" just won't cut it.  How about "The wurst of the wurst"? It's elegant and the cost would be minimal - only two vowels.  Truth is, we could probably raise some more money for the Federal Treasury - in order to be able to sufficiently incentivize our poor put-upon bankers with more hookers and Porsches - by having a contest.  Just to start the process, I suggest a few: "Super Size Them!"; "Homeland Hummus"; Apple Kabuller"; "Tehran Tenders"; "Special KSM"; "Freedom Fries!" </div><div><br /></div><div>Modest Proposal #2: Let the Market Work Its Magic.</div><div><br /></div><div>I realize that the Vegan lobby is strong and would likely resist MP#1. Even for more moderate vegetarians, it would probably be objectionable.  After all, as fishy as these enemy combatants are, they are not fish. </div><div><br /></div><div>One is tempted to say, what's the matter, you don't want to give our president the tools he needs - "aggressive cooking" or "enhanced kitchen techniques" - to protect our nation?  Well politics is the art of compromise so let's consider this: shipping <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">all</span> our violent prisoners to Guantanamo. </div><div><br /></div><div>Let's face it: there is something fundamentally dishonest about saying these Gitmo detainees are too dangerous to bring to America.  Cmon, nobody's better at taking care of tough guys than America.  We lead the world in "aggressive" and "enhanced" prisons - in prisons period! According to The Sentencing Project, the US rate of incarceration is a world beater: five to eight times that of other highly developed countries.   And we have more people in prison - 2.31 million - than any other nation except for China.  (China - you better watch out: we are gaining on you!)</div><div><br /></div><div>It's another awkward fact that we already imprison many violent people in the US: mafiosi, serial killers, hit men, and terrorists, including some from Al Qaeda.  Here are a few examples: Charles Manson; David Berkowitz (aka "Son of Sam"); Gary Ridgway (known as the "Green River Killer" for the way he dumped the 48 prostitutes he killed in Washington's Green River); Al Qaeda's Abul Hakim Murad; Dandeny Munoz Mosquera, chief assassin for Pablo Escobar; The Unabomber; Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer (that stands for Bind, Torture and Kill); Al Qaeda's Ahmed Omar Abu Ali; and El Sayyid Nosair, of the World Trade Center bombing. (See a longer list below of those detained in Florence, Colorado.) </div><div><br /></div><div>We can't really claim that the folks in Guantanamo - one of whom was 14 when we captured him - are more dangerous than the guys we already have in prison in the US. Indeed, it's even more foolish to claim that the innocent men of Gitmo (most of those remaining) would be more dangerous than the Unabomber or the guy responsible for murdering Sharon Tate. </div><div><br /></div><div>So, to be consistent, it might make more sense to admit that we already have too many dangerous people in prison in the US.  Rather than move the relatively innocuous folks from Gitmo here, it would be better to move the "worst of the worst" of America to Gitmo.  Now, this will pose some problems.  After all, there are currently 1.2 million violent offenders in US prisons.  Luckily we have a philosophy that will get us out of our jam: the free market's view that the survival of the fittest is always the best solution to every problem.</div><div><br /></div><div>Here's how it will work.  There are approximately 700 prison cell units at Guantanamo.  With only 240 detainees there now, the facilities are embarrassingly underutilized.  So if we sent all 1.2 million violent offenders there, that would result in approximately 1,714 detainees per unit.   We would continue the Pepsi and Pizza night policy and then let the market work its magic.  Over time, the most ambitious and entrepreneurial detainees would survive, and the rest would be referred to our cartage program (see above).  Not only would this be efficient, this policy would keep us safe and be consistent with our free market principles.  </div><div><br /></div><div>Modest Proposal #3: If They're All Guilty, We're Free from Guilt.</div><div><br /></div><div>I once gave my sister a spray can called "Guilt Away," a special elixir for liberals, allowing for the instant removal of any feelings of guilt.  Well, thanks to President Bush and, seemingly, President Obama, we now have a detention formula that will work that same "guilt away" magic on all Americans: guilty even if proven innocent.</div><div><br /></div><div>For years, the Bush Administration eviscerated all the military and legal structures that were designed to separate the innocent from the guilty in the "Global War on Terror." We eliminated the military's system of competent tribunals in the field of battle (where JAG officers would conduct hearings to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys) and instituted a system of Combatant Status Review Tribunals that allowed us - without showing a whiff of proof - to tell the detainees over and over again that they were guilty, while turning a deaf ear to any solid evidence that would prove their innocence.</div><div><br /></div><div>Dude! How good was that system!  Whenever we made a mistake, and got all "aggressive" with the wrong person, we could cover our tracks and pretend we were right all along.  If only our criminal justice system worked like that more consistently.  Talk about "guilt away"!</div><div><br /></div><div>Now, unfortunately, some prissy card-carrying members of the US Constitution have made us all look bad by pointing out that many of the Gitmo detainees weren't guilty of anything.  Whoops!  However, even more problematic for President Obama, it appears that many of these previously "innocent" men have become radicalized and pissed off after being held for seven years in Supermax prisons in southeastern Cuba.  We can't possibly let them go now because they don't like us anymore.  As we know from our own experience with American prisons, being locked up with hardened criminals (or terrorists) doesn't turn prisoners away from crime; it educates them on how to commit bigger and better crimes.  </div><div><br /></div><div>So now that we've turned nice Afghan farmers into hardened jihadis, what do we do: apologize and turn them loose to grow wheat in Idaho?  No way. </div><div><br /></div><div>Luckily, we have found a wonderful all-encompassing phrase: preventive detention.  That means we can lock 'em up forever (preferably in Bagram where no one pays attention) unless and until they agree to work for us.  If they do, we can export terror the way we used to export cars.  Trade deficits?  Not any more.  Want to mess with America on wheat or sugar subsidies?  How about a taste of Gitmo-grown terror from Uighur warriors? Trouble with North Korean nukes? How about a parachute drop of a few hardened peanut farmers!  If you're not on your best behavior with America, count on a visit from the worst of the worst.  Guilt Awaaaaaaaaaaay! </div><div><br /></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-sans-serif; font-size: 19px; line-height: 19px;"><p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><br /></p><p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">From Wikipedia, this is a <b>list of prisoners at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence" title="ADX Florence" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">ADX Florence</a></b>, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">United States</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax" title="Supermax" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">supermax</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_prison" title="Federal prison" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">federal prison</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence,_Colorado" title="Florence, Colorado" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Florence</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado" title="Colorado" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Colorado</a>. This list includes both former and current prisoners:</p><ul style="margin: 0.3em 0px 0.5em 1.5em; padding: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; list-style-image: url(http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/bullet.gif);"><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Hakim_Murad_%28militant%29" title="Abdul Hakim Murad (militant)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Abdul Hakim Murad</a>, of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda" title="Al-Qaeda" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">al-Qaeda</a>'s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bojinka" title="Operation Bojinka" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Operation Bojinka</a><sup id="cite_ref-Bomber_Row_0-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Bomber_Row-0" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accardo_Simonelli&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Accardo Simonelli (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration: none; background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0);">Accardo Simonelli</a>, gangster from the New Mexico mafia. Hitman with more than 30 counts of murder.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adolph_Reynoso&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Adolph Reynoso (page does not exist)" style="text-decoration: none; background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0);">Adolph Reynoso</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Mafia" title="Mexican Mafia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Mexican Mafia</a></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Ajaj" title="Ahmed Ajaj" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Ahmed Ajaj</a>, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">World Trade Center bombing</a><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-1" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Omar_Abu_Ali" title="Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">Ahmed Omar Abu Ali</a>, Al Qaeda conspirator in several plots, including one to assassinate U.S. President <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush" title="George W. Bush" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none;">George W. Bush</a></li></ul><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 28px;"><br /></span></div></span></span></div>]]>
        <![CDATA[<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-sans-serif; font-size: 19px; line-height: 19px; "><ul style="line-height: 1.5em; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.75em; margin-left: 20px; background-repeat: repeat-y; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: outside; list-style-image: initial; "><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Ressam" title="Ahmed Ressam" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Ahmed Ressam</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_millennium_attack_plots" title="2000 millennium attack plots" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">2000 millennium attack plots</a><sup id="cite_ref-Bomber_Row_0-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Bomber_Row-0" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alex_Aguirre&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Alex Aguirre (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Alex Aguirre</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Mafia" title="Mexican Mafia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mexican Mafia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Fastow" title="Andrew Fastow" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Andrew Fastow</a>, former CFO of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron" title="Enron" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Enron</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Casso" title="Anthony Casso" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso</a>, 16802-050, former Underboss turned informant for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucchese_crime_family" title="Lucchese crime family" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Lucchese crime family</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_McBayne&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Anthony McBayne (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Anthony McBayne</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_Jones_%28murderer%29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Anthony Jones (murderer) (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Anthony Jones</a>, multiple murderer</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antonio_Guerrero_Rodr%C3%ADguez&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Antonio Guerrero Rodríguez (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Antonio Guerrero Rodríguez</a>, Cuban spy, serving life plus 10 years</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aziz_Abdul_Mumi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Aziz Abdul Mumi (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Aziz Abdul Mumi</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Byron_Mills" title="Barry Byron Mills" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Barry Byron Mills</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Brotherhood" title="Aryan Brotherhood" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Aryan Brotherhood</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; ">Bryan Cook serving a 40-year sentence for carjacking and assault, was stabbed while in the recreation yard</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson" title="Charles Harrelson" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Charles Harrelson</a>, 02582-016, Texan hitman, convicted of murdering federal judge, father of actor <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Harrelson" title="Woody Harrelson" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Woody Harrelson</a>, died in prison of a heart attack <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2007-03-15"><span class="mw-formatted-date" title="03-15"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_15" title="March 15" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">March 15</a></span>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007" title="2007" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">2007</a></span>.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-2" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cornelio_Tristan&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Cornelio Tristan (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Cornelio Tristan</a> member of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Familia" title="Nuestra Familia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Nuestra Familia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Rodney_Hampton-El" title="Clement Rodney Hampton-El" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Clement Rodney Hampton-El</a>, a.k.a. Dr. Rashid, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandeny_Mu%C3%B1oz_Mosquera" title="Dandeny Muñoz Mosquera" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Dandeny Muñoz Mosquera</a>, chief assassin for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Escobar" title="Pablo Escobar" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Pablo Escobar</a>, responsible for the bombing of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_203" title="Avianca Flight 203" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Avianca Flight 203</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danny_Weeks&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Danny Weeks (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Danny Weeks</a>, for kidnapping two women in the course of escaping from Louisiana Penitentiary at Angola<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-3" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" title="The material in the vicinity of this tag failed verification of its source citation(s) since December 2007" style="white-space: nowrap; line-height: 1em; ">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">not in citation given</a></i>]</sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Brian_Stone&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="David Brian Stone (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">David Brian Stone</a> was stabbed in the back while in the recreation yard. He was serving a 10-year sentence for firearm possession by a felon</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lane_%28white_nationalist%29" title="David Lane (white nationalist)" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">David Lane</a>, 12873-057, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacist" title="White supremacist" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">white supremacist</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeering" title="Racketeering" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">racketeer</a>. Died in his sleep 28 May 2007.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Roland_Hinkson&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="David Roland Hinkson (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">David Roland Hinkson</a> convicted in federal court for plotting to kill a federal judge, prosecutor and IRS agent who were involved in a tax case against him.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Vargas&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="David Vargas (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">David Vargas</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; ">Douglas Black facing a life sentence for murder in Massachusetts in addition to his federal time a seven-year sentence for assault</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Douglas_Saxon_Taylor&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Douglas Saxon Taylor (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Douglas Saxon Taylor</a> leader of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_skinhead" title="Nazi skinhead" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">88 Skinheads</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_York" title="Dwight York" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Dwight York</a>, 17911-054, founder of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nuwaubian_Nation_of_Moors" title="United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors</a> serving 135 years for child molestation and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeering" title="Racketeering" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">racketeering</a><sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-4" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Sayyid_Nosair" title="El Sayyid Nosair" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">El Sayyid Nosair</a>, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-NYDN_5-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-NYDN-5" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph" title="Eric Robert Rudolph" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Eric Robert Rudolph</a>, 18282-058, terrorist, committed the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park_bombing" title="Centennial Olympic Park bombing" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Centennial Olympic Park bombing</a> and other bombings<sup id="cite_ref-Bomber_Row_0-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Bomber_Row-0" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-6" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyad_Ismail" title="Eyad Ismail" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Eyad Ismail</a>, 37802-054, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a><sup id="cite_ref-NYDN_5-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-NYDN-5" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-7" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Melendez&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Frank Melendez (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Frank Melendez</a>, cocaine dealer from California killed in ADX Florence by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mirssa_Araiza-Reyes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mirssa Araiza-Reyes (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Mirssa Araiza-Reyes</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Javier_Arellano_Felix" title="Francisco Javier Arellano Felix" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Francisco Javier Arellano Felix</a>, Mexican drug lord</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garrett_Wade_Linderman&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Garrett Wade Linderman (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Garrett Wade Linderman</a> Linderman had been in another prison for robbery until his cellmate there was found stabbed to death. Linderman wasn't tried for the murder, but they transferred him to the A.D.X.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Rubalcaba&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Gerald Rubalcaba (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Gerald Rubalcaba</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Familia" title="Nuestra Familia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Nuestra Familia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregory_Scarpa_Jr&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Gregory Scarpa Jr (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Gregory Scarpa Jr</a> former Colombo Family member</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Rap_Brown" title="H. Rap Brown" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">H. Rap Brown</a> 99974-555, former civil rights activist convicted of murdering a Georgia sheriff's deputy (<i><b>NOTE</b>: Brown is a Georgia state inmate held here because Georgia does not have a suitable facility.)</i></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hanif_Shabazz_Bey&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Hanif Shabazz Bey (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Hanif Shabazz Bey</a> (Beaumont Gereau) # 295933</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Howard_%22Pappy%22_Mason&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Howard &quot;Pappy&quot; Mason (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Howard "Pappy" Mason</a> 24651-053, drug trafficker who ordered the murder of police officer Eddie Byrne.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ibrahim_Elgabrowny&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ibrahim Elgabrowny (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Ibrahim Elgabrowny</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_landmark_bomb_plot" title="New York City landmark bomb plot" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">New York City landmark bomb plot</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyman_Faris" title="Iyman Faris" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Iyman Faris</a>, also of the NYC landmark plot, sentenced to 20 years in 2003</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Are_James_%22Tibbs%22_Morado&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Are James &quot;Tibbs&quot; Morado (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">are James "Tibbs" Morado</a> member of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Familia" title="Nuestra Familia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Nuestra Familia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Curtis_Martin&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="James Curtis Martin (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">James Curtis Martin</a> was stabbed and strangled last April. He was serving a 95-year sentence for two counts of murder.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ujaama" title="James Ujaama" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">James Ujaama</a>, who tried to develop an al-Qaeda camp in Oregon</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Fort" title="Jeff Fort" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Jeff Fort</a>, he is currently imprisoned on drug trafficking charges. He is also the only American citizen ever convicted of terrorism for hire.<sup id="cite_ref-Skiba_8-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Skiba-8" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joey_Estrella&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Joey Estrella (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Joey Estrella</a>, bank robber, killed in ADX Florence by the Sablan cousin's</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Greschner&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="John Greschner (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">John Greschner</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Brotherhood" title="Aryan Brotherhood" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Aryan Brotherhood</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_%22Pinky%22_Hernandez&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Joseph &quot;Pinky&quot; Hernandez (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Joseph "Pinky" Hernandez</a> member of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Familia" title="Nuestra Familia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Nuestra Familia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Wroblewski&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Joseph Wroblewski (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Joseph Wroblewski</a> killed by Shane Patrick Bailey</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh" title="John Walker Lindh" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">John Walker Lindh</a>, dubbed "The American <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban" title="Taliban" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Taliban</a>"<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-9" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Padilla" title="Jose Padilla" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Jose Padilla</a>, 20796-424, convicted of aiding terrorists</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Bryant_McGee&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Joseph Bryant McGee (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Joseph Bryant McGee</a>, bank robber</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Anthony_Leissler&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Joseph Anthony Leissler (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Joseph Anthony Leissler</a>, robber and murderer</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Matta-Ballesteros" title="Juan Matta-Ballesteros" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Juan Matta-Ballesteros</a>, 37671-133, drug trafficker in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Camarena" title="Enrique Camarena" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Enrique Camarena</a> case, serving 480 years</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalfan_Khamis_Mohamed" title="Khalfan Khamis Mohamed" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Khalfan Khamis Mohamed</a>, participant in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_embassy_bombings" title="1998 United States embassy bombings" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">1998 United States embassy bombings</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kojo_Bomani_Sababu&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Kojo Bomani Sababu (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Kojo Bomani Sababu</a>, aka Grailing Brown convicted of bank robbery, part of the Black Liberation Army</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_%22Supreme%22_McGriff" title="Kenneth &quot;Supreme&quot; McGriff" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff</a> 26301-053, an American drug trafficker and organized crime figure.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hoover" title="Larry Hoover" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Larry Hoover</a>, 86063-024, leader of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples" title="Gangster Disciples" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Gangster Disciples</a> gang in Chicago</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lawrence_Klaker&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Lawrence Klaker (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Lawrence Klaker</a> He killed himself, Aryan Brotherhood member</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Felipe_%28murderer%29" title="Luis Felipe (murderer)" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Luis Felipe</a>, leader of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Kings_%28gang%29" title="Latin Kings (gang)" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Latin Kings</a> gang<sup id="cite_ref-CNN_McVeigh_10-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CNN_McVeigh-10" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_Abouhalima" title="Mahmud Abouhalima" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mahmud Abouhalima</a>, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a><sup id="cite_ref-Kilzer_11-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Kilzer-11" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manuel_Torrez_%28prisoner%29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Manuel Torrez (prisoner) (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Manuel Torrez</a>, who in 2005 at age 64 became the first inmate to be murdered in a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax" title="Supermax" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Supermax</a> prison<sup id="cite_ref-Vindicator_12-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Vindicator-12" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-13" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Jordan&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mark Jordan (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Mark Jordan</a> was convicted of bank robbery, and in 1999 he stabbed an inmate to death at the adjacent U.S. Penitentiary in Florence</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_F._Hale" title="Matthew F. Hale" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Matthew F. Hale</a>, 15177-424, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacist" title="White supremacist" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">white supremacist</a> for soliciting the murder of federal judge <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Lefkow" title="Joan Lefkow" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Joan Lefkow</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maynard_Campell&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Maynard Campell (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Maynard Campell</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_separatist" title="White separatist" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">white separatist</a> with ties to militia groups;serving a ten-year sentence stemming from a land dispute with federal officials in Orego, was stabbed to death</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swango" title="Michael Swango" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Michael Swango</a>, physician and serial murderer</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mirssa_Araiza-Reyes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mirssa Araiza-Reyes (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Mirssa Araiza-Reyes</a>, drug smuggler and illegal alien; killed inmate <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Melendez&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Frank Melendez (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Frank Melendez</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Rashed_Daoud_Al-Owhali" title="Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-Owhali" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-Owhali</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings" title="1998 U.S. embassy bombings" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">1998 U.S. embassy bombings</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_A._Salameh" title="Mohammed A. Salameh" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mohammed A. Salameh</a>, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a><sup id="cite_ref-Kilzer_11-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Kilzer-11" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Ali_Hassan_Al-Moayad" title="Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad</a>, would-be financier of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda" title="Al-Qaeda" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">al-Qaeda</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Hamas</a>, serving 75 years</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Odeh" title="Mohammed Odeh" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mohammed Odeh</a> is one of the four former al-Qaeda members sentenced to life imprisonment in 2001 for their parts in the 1998 United States embassy bombings.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mansour_Jabarah" title="Mohammed Mansour Jabarah" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mohammed Mansour Jabarah</a> A Canadian convicted of terrorism-related offences</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mustafa_Zulu&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mustafa Zulu (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Mustafa Zulu</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutulu_Shakur" title="Mutulu Shakur" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mutulu Shakur</a>, 83205-012, serving 60 years for a bank robbery in which a policeman and two guards were killed. Stepfather of late rapper <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur" title="Tupac Shakur" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Tupac Shakur</a>, brother of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur" title="Assata Shakur" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Assata Shakur</a><sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-14" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicodemo_Scarfo" title="Nicodemo Scarfo" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Nicodemo Scarfo</a>, was serving life imprisonment at Supermax,<sup id="cite_ref-Skiba_8-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Skiba-8" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup> primarily on the testimony of a number of informants, including his nephew. He managed to overturn his life sentence and get transferred to an FCI in Atlanta, Georgia.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nidal_Ayyad&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Nidal Ayyad (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Nidal Ayyad</a>, of the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a><sup id="cite_ref-Kilzer_11-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Kilzer-11" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Abdel-Rahman" title="Omar Abdel-Rahman" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Omar Abdel-Rahman</a>, 34892-054, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Gama%27a_al-Islamiyya" title="Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya</a> mentor, nicknamed "The Blind Sheik", serving life for his part in the 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="World Trade Center bombing" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">World Trade Center bombing</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omar_Mohammed_Rezaq&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Omar Mohammed Rezaq (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Omar Mohammed Rezaq</a>, airliner hijacker</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omar_Portee&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Omar Portee (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Omar Portee</a>, aka <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O.G._Mack" title="O.G. Mack" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">O.G. Mack</a>. Co-founder of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Blood_Nation" title="United Blood Nation" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">United Blood Nation</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Chartier&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Paul Chartier (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Paul Chartier</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Rollack&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Peter Rollack (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Peter Rollack</a> <i>Sex, Money, Murder</i> founder is currently serving 105 years without parole for 6 murders</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Rivera" title="Oscar Rivera" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Oscar Rivera</a>, leader of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_National_Liberation" title="Armed Forces of National Liberation" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Armed Forces of National Liberation</a>, a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico" title="Puerto Rico" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Puerto Rican</a> militant group, for bombing 28 targets in the Chicago area. Received an additional 15-year sentence for an escape attempt (from another prison).</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzi_Yousef" title="Ramzi Yousef" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Ramzi Yousef</a>, 03911-000, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing" title="1993 World Trade Center bombing" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">1993 World Trade Center bombing</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bojinka" title="Operation Bojinka" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Operation Bojinka</a>, senior al-Qaeda member<sup id="cite_ref-Vindicator_12-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Vindicator-12" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-CBS_Hell_15-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CBS_Hell-15" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-CNN_McVeigh_10-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CNN_McVeigh-10" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raymond_Luc_Levasseur&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Raymond Luc Levasseur (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Raymond Luc Levasseur</a>, American domestic bomber</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raymond_Oechsle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Raymond Oechsle (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Raymond Oechsle</a>, was incarcerated with Casso from 2001 to 2002 at ADX</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramiro_%22Ramsey%22_R._Mu%C3%B1iz&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ramiro &quot;Ramsey&quot; R. Muñiz (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Ramiro "Ramsey" R. Muñiz</a> 40288-115 convicted of drug charges, political figure</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Colvin_Reid" title="Richard Colvin Reid" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Richard Reid</a>, 24079-038, al-Qaeda's would-be "Shoe Bomber"<sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-16" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lee_McNair" title="Richard Lee McNair" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Richard Lee McNair</a>, 13829-045, escape artist, serving 3 life sentences for murder.<sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-17" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-18" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-19" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-19" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Scutari&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Richard Scutari (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Richard Scutari</a>, conspirator in a 1984 robbery of a Brink's armored truck; serving 60 years</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Haney&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Robert Haney (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Robert Haney</a>, bank robber, pretended to escape from ADX with Tony Francis</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen" title="Robert Hanssen" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Robert Hanssen</a>, 48551-083, former senior <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI" title="FBI" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">FBI</a> agent serving life for espionage<sup id="cite_ref-CBS_Hell_15-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CBS_Hell-15" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jones" title="Robert Jones" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Robert Jones</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodney_Hambrick&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Rodney Hambrick (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Rodney Hambrick</a>, serving a 68-year sentence on bomb charges</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Griesacker" title="Ronald Griesacker" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Ronald Griesacker</a>, fraudster, passed $2 million in worthless checks. Released in 2002.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rudy_Cabrera_Sablan&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Rudy Cabrera Sablan (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Rudy Cabrera Sablan</a> serving a 92-month sentence for being a felon in possession of a firearm. Also serving Life without parole in the killing of Joey Estrella.</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruben_%22Nite_Owl%22_Castro&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ruben &quot;Nite Owl&quot; Castro (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Ruben "Nite Owl" Castro</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Mafia" title="Mexican Mafia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Mexican Mafia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Gravano" title="Sammy Gravano" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano</a>, former Underboss turned government witness of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family" title="Gambino crime family" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Gambino crime family</a><sup id="cite_ref-CBS_Hell_15-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CBS_Hell-15" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tex_Marin_Hernandez&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Tex Marin Hernandez (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Tex Marin Hernandez</a> member of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Familia" title="Nuestra Familia" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Nuestra Familia</a></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Nichols" title="Terry Nichols" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Terry Nichols</a>, 08157-031, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing" title="Oklahoma City bombing" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Oklahoma City bombing</a> conspirator<sup id="cite_ref-Vindicator_12-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Vindicator-12" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shane_Patrick_Bailey&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Shane Patrick Bailey (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Shane Patrick Bailey</a> bank robber from Minnesota, is charged with ending cellmate Joseph Wroblewski's life on May, 23, 1999</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steven_Riddle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Steven Riddle (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Steven Riddle</a> inmate who did most of the stabbing of Campbell, got ten years for manslaughter</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski" title="Theodore Kaczynski" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Theodore Kaczynski</a>, 04475-046, the "Unabomber"<sup id="cite_ref-CNN_McVeigh_10-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CNN_McVeigh-10" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Silverstein" title="Thomas Silverstein" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Thomas Silverstein</a>, bank robber and murderer; killed guard Merle Clutts at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Penitentiary,_Marion" title="United States Penitentiary, Marion" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">United States Penitentiary, Marion</a><sup id="cite_ref-CBS_Hell_15-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CBS_Hell-15" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh" title="Timothy McVeigh" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Timothy McVeigh</a>, executed 2001 for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing" title="Oklahoma City bombing" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Oklahoma City bombing</a><sup id="cite_ref-CBS_Hell_15-4" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CBS_Hell-15" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-CNN_McVeigh_10-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-CNN_McVeigh-10" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Manning_%28prisoner%29" title="Tom Manning (prisoner)" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Tom Manning</a>, political serial bomber, has been transferred to USP Hazelton</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Francis_%28prisoner%29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Tony Francis (prisoner) (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Tony Francis</a> pretended with Robert Haney to escape from ADX<sup class="noprint Template-Fact" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources since September 2008" style="white-space: nowrap; line-height: 1em; ">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">citation needed</a></i>]</sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Davis_Bingham" title="Tyler Davis Bingham" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Tyler Davis Bingham</a>, conspired to order multiple killings and assaults from Florence ADX</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tyrone_Love&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Tyrone Love (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Tyrone Love</a>, transferred to Florence after the "crack riots" at Lompoc, California in 1996</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadih_el-Hage" title="Wadih el-Hage" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Wadih el-Hage</a>, 42393-054, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_embassy_bombings" title="1998 United States embassy bombings" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">1998 United States embassy bombings</a> in Africa<sup id="cite_ref-Eggen_20-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Eggen-20" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wali_Khan_Amin_Shah" title="Wali Khan Amin Shah" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Wali Khan Amin Shah</a> Operation Bojinka</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wayne_Perry&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wayne Perry (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Wayne Perry</a>, henchman for The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Martinez" title="Alberto Martinez" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Alberto "Alpo" Martinez</a> Drug Gang</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Sablan&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="William Sablan (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">William Sablan</a> serving a 252-month sentence for hostage taking, now serving life without parole, killing of Joey Estrella</li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu_Kikumura" title="Yu Kikumura" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Yu Kikumura</a>, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Red_Army" title="Japanese Red Army" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Japanese Red Army</a>, released <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2007-04-18"><span class="mw-formatted-date" title="04-18"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_18" title="April 18" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">April 18</a></span>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007" title="2007" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">2007</a></span>, served 221 months, deported<sup id="cite_ref-Eggen_20-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Eggen-20" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui" title="Zacarias Moussaoui" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">Zacarias Moussaoui</a>, 51427-054, of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks" title="September 11, 2001 attacks" class="mw-redirect" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; text-decoration: underline; ">September 11, 2001 attacks</a><sup id="cite_ref-Bomber_Row_0-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence#cite_note-Bomber_Row-0" title="" style="color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: underline; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup></li><li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zayd_Hassan_Abd_Al-Latif_Masud_Al_Safarini&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Zayd Hassan Abd Al-Latif Masud Al Safarini (page does not exist)" style="background-image: none; color: rgb(204, 34, 0); text-decoration: underline; ">Zayd Hassan Abd Al-Latif Masud Al Safarini</a>, Pan Am Flight 73 Hijacker</li></ul></span>]]>
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<entry>
    <title>Killing Wussification</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/2009/05/killing_wussification.php" />
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    <published>2009-05-21T12:07:28Z</published>
    <updated>2009-05-22T12:14:59Z</updated>

    <summary> What&apos;s with the ongoing &quot;wussification&quot; name-calling by cable chit-chat provocateurs like Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity?  While Hannity and others have offered to be waterboarded - a sign they hope will convey just how mild the process is -...</summary>
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        <name>Alex Gibney</name>
        <uri>http://www.jigsawprods.com</uri>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What's with the ongoing "wussification" name-calling by
cable chit-chat provocateurs like Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>While Hannity and others have offered
to be waterboarded - a sign they hope will convey just how mild the process is
- Coulter has compared CIA interrogation techniques to the sexual highjinks of
disgraced politicians.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(In her
fondness for an easy mix of sex and violence, Coulter may have been right at
home at Abu Ghraib.)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>While I
regard her - and other "wussy" callers - as beneath contempt, I have been
disturbed that intelligent friends of mine cite her "work" as evidence of what
they want to believe: that the enhanced interrogation techniques that so-called
liberals call torture are nothing more than fraternity pranks.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Well, Ms. Coulter, work on this: is murder a frat prank?</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">There has been a lot of arcane talk about the memos produced
by the Office of Legal Counsel about specific "no-touch" torture techniques
which, out-of-context, can sound harmless, if a bit weird.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(In one of Office of Legal Counsel memos written by Steven Bradbury, he
notes that, while it's OK to strip a detainee naked and make him wear a diaper,
one must be careful not to chafe the skin with the Velcro straps when taking
them on and off.)</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">What has been mostly missing from the recent debate about
detainee abuse is that over 100 detainees died in custody during the war on
terror.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Nearly half of those
deaths have been classified as homicides.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>For all sorts of reasons, it's worth looking at one case in particular.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It's the story of Dilawar, a 22-year
old taxi driver whose murder was at the center of my film, "Taxi to the Dark
Side."<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Dilawar lived in Yakubi, a small peanut-farming village in
Afghanistan, not far from the Pakistan border.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>Shy and a bit of a dreamer, Dilawar drove a taxi to support
his wife and young daughter because he wasn't really cut out for the hard work
of farming. On December 1, 2002, he was carrying three paid fares home from the
provincial capital of Khost when he and his passengers were stopped and
arrested by Afghan militia.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>Accused of launching a rocket attack on Camp Salerno, a nearby US base,
Dilawar and his passengers were turned over to American forces.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">On December 5, Dilawar was flown to Bagram, the headquarters
for US forces in Afghanistan and a key detention and interrogation center,
where he was designated a PUC - person under control - number 421.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Five days later, he was dead.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Only a week before, another detainee named Habibullah had
died.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>The medical examiner
noted that he had a pre-existing pulmonary condition.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>But it was the beatings he sustained at Bagram that led to
the cause of his death: a blood clot that traveled to his lungs.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>As one member of the 519<sup>th</sup>
Military Intelligence Battalion recalled, "two prisoners dying within a week of each
other.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>That's bad."<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed it was.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">The army initially declared in a press release that both men
had died of natural causes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But an
enterprising NY Times reporter named Carlotta Gall managed to track down Dilawar's family in
Yakubi.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Dilawar's brother,
Shahpoor, showed her a folded paper he had received with Dilawar's body.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>He couldn't read because it was in
English.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It was a death
certificate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>As Gall scanned to
the cause of death, a small "x" was marked in the box for "Homicide."</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Further investigation revealed that Dilawar's cause of death
was remarkably similar to that of Habibullah.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>He died of a pulmonary embolism caused by trauma to his legs
that was so severe that the coroner said his legs were "pulpified," and looked
like they had been run over by a truck.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>Had he lived, the coroner later testified, Dilawar's legs would have had
to have been amputated.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(Another
note on the importance of photographs: by finding the autopsy pictures of
Dilawar -"Taxi" made a handful of these public for the first time - I confirmed
the findings of the coroner with images of Dilawar's wounds that showed such
extraordinary tissue damage that many were too gruesome to be shown<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>in the film.)</p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/photos/1767.IMG_0797.JPG"><img alt="1767.IMG_0797.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/05/1767.IMG_0797-thumb-600x450-8114.jpg" width="600" height="450" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">What could have caused such trauma?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A criminal investigation revealed that
the Military Police at Bagram had pummeled Dilawar's legs with peroneal strikes,
an "approved" control measure that the MPs had learned one day in their guard
training.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It involved slamming
their knees into the nerve endings on Dilawar's thighs.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>"It drops 'em pretty good," said one
MP.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">At first, soldiers told me, they used strikes to control the
122-pound Dilawar because he would often try to take off his hood, perhaps
because he suffered from severe asthma.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>Later, as Dilawar continued to moan and cry out for his mother and
father - which MPs, who couldn't understand him, may have mistaken for the
signs of a troublemaker - the guards would pummel him with knee strikes over and over again, just
to shut him up, or sometimes, for their amusement, just to hear him scream
"allah."</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Now, at this point, the reader must be thinking: this is the
work of a few bad apples, rogue sadists, mean motherfuckers.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Well, having met a number of Dilawar's
guards and interrogators, I don't share that view at all.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Most of the young men I met were
physically imposing but polite, soft-spoken and haunted by their experiences.
"Sometimes," said MP Tony Morden, "I feel I should have uh, gone with my own
morality more than what was common."<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Some have been convicted by the military of various crimes, including assault and
maiming, and punished with light sentences for their roles in Dilawar's death. They
all admit that they did something wrong, and they accept their punishment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Yet they resent the fact that they were
singled out and prosecuted while their superior officers were barely
investigated for condoning or ordering the crimes that the soldiers committed.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Who was ultimately responsible?</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Dilawar and Habibullah died, in part, because they
were hooded and shackled to the wire mesh ceiling of their holding cells for hours at a
time so that the blood flowed to their legs, turning peroneal strikes into
death blows.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But the illegal practice of overhead
shackling was not the work of bad apples.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>It was routine at Bagram.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It was <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">policy</span>.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">For reasons no one can explain, and without written orders
that anyone can or is willing to produce, a program of sleep deprivation was
instituted at Bagram whereby MPs would shackle detainees to the ceiling of
holding cells so that if they tried to fall asleep they would be awakened by
the tugging of the handcuffs on their bloody wrists.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">   </span>There was nothing secret about this.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>There was a regular "sleep dep"
schedule posted on a white board in the prison that was visible to the many
high-ranking officers and Bush Administration officials who toured the prison.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(It was only erased and the prisoners
unshackled when the Red Cross visited Bagram.)<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">   </span>The office of Lt. Gen. Dan K. McNeill, then commander
of US forces in Afghanistan, was a stone's throw away from the prison.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Off-limits to journalists, the Bagram prison was a showplace
for many touring dignitaries and high-ranking military officers.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>As Damien Corsetti, a member of the 519<sup>th</sup>
MI unit told me, "Mr. Rumsfeld's office called our office frequently. Very high
commanders would want to be kept up to date on a daily basis on certain
prisoners there. The brass knew. They saw them shackled, they saw them hooded
and they said right on. You all are doing a great job."</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">There were other "techniques" in regular use at Bagram: the
use of snarling dogs, deafening music, forced nudity, and, according a number
of soldiers, a kind of low-rent, homemade waterboarding set-up: wetting down a
hood, putting it on a detainee's head and then heating it up to let the steam
to suffocate the detainee.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">It should be noted that none of these techniques were interrogation techniques per
se.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But they were all in the
service of softening up detainees for interrogation.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>Other techniques - such as stress positions, like "the
invisible chair," in which the detainee is made to sit as if there were a chair
under him - <i>were</i><span style="font-style:normal"> used in
interrogations.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>In Dilawar's case,
however, the beatings to his legs made him unable to sit on "the invisible
chair," during one of his last interrogations.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>Thinking Dilawar was mocking him when he slid down the wall
and fell on the floor - he couldn't see the deep bruises under his orange jump
suit - his interrogator punished him some more.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Now, let's move on to the results of Dilawar's
interrogation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>After all, the
"torture-is-tough-but-necessary" crowd maintains that torture always delivers
the goods.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Let's see what
actionable intelligence was obtained: After the third day of trying to find out
about the rocket attack, Dilawar's interrogators concluded that he was utterly
innocent.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Yet the beatings continued
for another two days until Dilawar was dead.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">To cover-up the fact that the Army had murdered an innocent man, the Army
sent his passengers (who had also been incarcerated at Bagram) to
Guantanamo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>There they sat until
March 2004, when military officials concluded that the unlucky passengers
"posed no threat" to American forces and sent them, without explanation, back
home to the peanut fields of Yakubi.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">   </span>Upon further investigation, it turned out that Afgans
who had originally detained Dilawar and his passengers were the very ones who
were actually responsible for the rocket attacks on Camp Salerno.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>They had a record of arresting
innocents, proclaiming them guilty and turning them over to US troops in order
to curry favor with the Americans.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">What happened to Captain Carolyn Wood, the officer in charge
of interrogation at Bagram during Dilawar's incarceration?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>She was given a bronze star
and sent to Abu Ghraib, just prior to the abuses there.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(It appears that, at long last, she may
have been questioned as part of the recent <a href="http://documents.nytimes.com/report-by-the-senate-armed-services-committee-on-detainee-treatment#p=1">Senate Armed Services Committee
report on detainee treatment</a>.)</p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Her full testimony - if revealed - should be
instructive.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But, as a Captain,
Carolyn Wood was implementing, not formulating policy at either Bagram or Abu
Ghraib.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>By all accounts, she was a
"can-do" soldier, popular with her soldiers (she would send post cards home to their
families) who was trying to make things work for her superiors.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Yet no written orders have been
produced to show us what senior officers had authorized interrogation
techniques in Bagram that were forbidden according to the Army Field Manual.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>So where did the orders come from?</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">In her testimony to the Senate, Wood claims that she first
saw a power point presentation about new "aggressive" techniques approved for
Guantanamo in January, 2003.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Yet
there was already a very "aggressive" program going on in Bagram - complete
with sleep deprivation and overhead shackling - that resulted in the murder of
two detainees in December 2002.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">So the Dilawar story tells us that long before Abu Ghraib,
at about exactly the same time as Mohammed al-Qahtani was being interrogated in
Guantanamo - supposedly in a unique way - under Rumsfeld's  "Special Interrogation Program" ("We tortured
Qahtani," said Susan Crawford, a Pentagon official who was in charge of the
Guantanamo military commissions, in an interview with the Washington Post) a
defacto worldwide policy of lawless, cruel, inhumane treatment, often rising to
the level of torture and murder, was in place that had nothing to do with the
explicit authorizations for a few high-value detainees given by the Secretary
of Defense and the Office of Legal Counsel. Is that worth investigating
further?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>I think so.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">On a more basic cultural level, for those who still consider
torture to be "tough" and lawful interrogation to be "weak," I would ask the
following questions.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is it good to
get bad intelligence?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Once torture
starts, can it be stopped?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is it
"tough" to brutalize the innocent along with the guilty?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is it a sign of "weakness" to wonder if
captured prisoners might be innocent? Is it "tough" to confront a helpless man
and beat him to death while he is shackled to the ceiling?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is it "tough" to be so panicky that we
abandon our fundamental principles at the first sign of attack?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">For Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity (or newfound TV torture
promoter Dick Cheney) the Dilawar story raises the stakes in the
"wussification" debate: for the amusement of your cable tv viewers, would
either of you be willing to undergo the Dilawar treatment?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span></p>

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<entry>
    <title>Why the Photos Are Important</title>
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    <id>tag:correspondents.theatlantic.com,2009:/alex_gibney//30.17696</id>

    <published>2009-05-18T11:46:53Z</published>
    <updated>2009-05-19T12:02:47Z</updated>

    <summary> Flying back from Italy, I&apos;m finding it hard to continue to reckon with the ongoing debate about torture.  There is an inexorable psychological undertow pulling me away from a reckoning with something so painful.  Can&apos;t we just move on? ...</summary>
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        <uri>http://www.jigsawprods.com</uri>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Flying back from Italy, I'm finding it hard to continue to
reckon with the ongoing debate about torture.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>There is an inexorable psychological undertow pulling me
away from a reckoning with something so painful.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>Can't we just move on?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Yet every time I give in to the idea of going with the flow,
I'm interrupted by something more upsetting: ongoing attempts to bury the past
or to make light of it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Last week, President Obama announced that he would resist
the release of more photos chronicling the abuse of Abu Ghraib - not long after
he agreed to make them public.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  
</span>His military advisers apparently convinced him that making more photos
public would put our soldiers in danger overseas.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>Yet, not so very long ago, other military voices had made the
argument that any American tolerance of torture - and not releasing the photos
is a kind of tolerance - would put our soldiers in jeopardy because ruthless
favors would be returned.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>So
which is it?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">What message does hiding the Abu Ghraib photos send to our
allies and our enemies?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>By resisting the release of the photos,
Obama is on record as saying, in effect, that we will hide evidence of
wrongdoing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>What kind of sunlight
is that? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>As many, notably
including Gen. Petraeus (who is resisting the release of the photos), have made
clear, a policy of torture is dangerous for our soldiers on purely pragmatic
grounds because it makes enemies out of friends, provides unreliable
intelligence, and offers our enemies a recruiting platform.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It also encourages corruption and
undermines the very values for which we fight.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Phrased another
way, a strong public stance against torture will undermine our enemies and
protect our soldiers. Why then, do Petraeus and others resist the release of
the remaining Abu Ghraib photos?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">On the one hand, there is the argument that these new photos
are not so very different from the others that have been seen.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Do we really need to plow this same
ground?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>I confess that I was
initially somewhat sympathetic to this argument because I think that too much
attention has been devoted to Abu Ghraib.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>It has become a convenient smokescreen of exceptionalism to mask the
systemic nature of the brutal policies of the Bush Administration. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">On the other hand, Christopher Brownfield, a former Naval officer (his book on his experiences in Iraq, "My Nuclear Family" will be published by Knopf this fall) reminds me of a Pentagon
briefing in 2006, in which a Deputy Secretary of Defense declared that "the
problem with Abu Ghraib is that they let those guys have cameras."<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>When another officer wondered if the "problem
was that it happened in the first place," he was censured for being
disrespectful to a senior officer. The official message was clearly conveyed: It
was not the abuse that was wrong; it was the taking and the leaking of the
photographs that was the real crime.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Well, that solves my ambivalence. <span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>I don't want to go back to that point of view.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>After initially agreeing to support the
release of the photos, Obama's sudden turnabout sends a dangerous signal left
over from the previous administration: it's not ok to show pictures of torture
because, well, they might upset people and because we need to cover up our
crimes in order to protect ourselves. That's like saying we have to destroy our
principles in order to protect them. I also don't take President Obama's word
that there is "nothing new" in these pictures.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">   </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">When I was making <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_0_21?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=taxi+to+the+dark+side+dvd&amp;sprefix=taxi+to+the+dark+side">"Taxi to the Dark Side,"</a> we scanned scores
of previously unreleased photos from Abu Ghraib and discovered disturbing
evidence of widespread abuse and lack of discipline.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>For example, mixed with the famous pictures of Sabrina
Harman giving the "thumbs up" over a murder victim, and Lynndie England holding
the dog collar on the neck of a stripped detainee on all fours beside her, were
shots of half-dressed US soldiers flashing and fucking each other, fondling
detainees and using their weapons to blow the heads off camels.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Because the mix was so indiscriminate,
all the images took on a pornographic cast, evidence that bonds of discipline and
restraint had been loosened, and the dispassionate practice of interrogation
had been overcome by<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>darker
impulses from that uncontrollable place in the psyche where the prison cell
meets the orgasmatron.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>In other words, the photos confirmed a de
facto policy that was meant, according to an investigation conducted by Major
General Fay "to condone depravity and degradation."</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">The photos we discovered also clearly indicated that certain
specific softening-up "techniques" - like shackling detainees in painful
positions (see below) often with underwear on their heads- had mutated and
migrated from Afghanistan and the relatively controlled laboratory of Guantanamo
to Iraq.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>So, painful as they may
be to examine, these new Abu Ghraib pictures probably have even more to teach
us about how the "enhanced interrogation techniques" approved by the Office of
Legal Counsel, for a few detainees in CIA custody, somehow managed to spread to
Iraq, where even John Yoo has said that the Geneva Conventions were supposed to
apply.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/photos/131%20Abu%20Ghraib.jpg"><img alt="131 Abu Ghraib.jpg" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/assets_c/2009/05/131 Abu Ghraib-thumb-600x397-8105.jpg" width="600" height="397" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></a></span><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal">Our enemies already know much of what we have done in the CIA black sites, and in our prisons in Afghanistan, Cuba and Iraq.  By following the rule of law, and abiding by our principles of openness and inquiry, we don't give comfort to our enemies.  Just the opposite.  We send a powerful signal that we mean what we say about investigating crimes, rather than covering them up.  We show that we mean what we say about the rights of the individual and that we are strong enough to assert them, not so weak that we must hide our principles - or our photographs - whenever our military forces are engaged in combat. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p></div>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Silencing the Witnesses</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/2009/05/life_and_death.php" />
    <id>tag:correspondents.theatlantic.com,2009:/alex_gibney//30.17485</id>

    <published>2009-05-13T05:59:58Z</published>
    <updated>2009-05-18T14:31:59Z</updated>

    <summary>I am in the village of Tonadico in the Italian Dolomite Mountains, shooting a documentary on Lance Armstrong, who is racing in the Giro D&apos;Italia, the Italian equivalent of the Tour de France.  Here, I post an iphone photo of...</summary>
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        <name>Alex Gibney</name>
        <uri>http://www.jigsawprods.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div>I am in the village of Tonadico in the Italian Dolomite Mountains, shooting a documentary on Lance Armstrong, who is racing in the Giro D'Italia, the Italian equivalent of the Tour de France.  Here, I post an iphone photo of the director of photography, Dick Pearce, shooting a Venice sunset at the start of the race:</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="IMG_0320.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/IMG_0320.JPG" class="mt-image-none" style="" width="600" height="450" /></span></div><div><br /></div><div>Internet at the hotel is spotty and the server is choking on the massive use of the system by scores of journalists, cyclists and coaches.  I am posting only part one of my thoughts today, owing to the furtive nature of my internet connection.</div><div><br /></div><div>I have been following the ongoing torture debate and wanted to put the sometimes bloodless discussions of memos in the Office of Legal Counsel into pserspective.  Over 100 detainees died in custody in the war on terror, and some, by the army's own account, were murdered.  "Murder," as Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief-of staff told me, "is the ultimate torture."  </div><div><br /></div>The disposal of witnesses of the torture program is also becoming increasingly worrisome.  This is the situation with Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, a Libyan terrorist, who was tortured into giving false information that was used to justify the Iraq War; the other is the story of a 22-year old innocent named Dilawar. <div><br /></div><div>The basic facts of al-Libi's case (in my previous blog) show that the Bush Administration didn't care for the good, actionable intelligence obtained from al-Libi by the FBI so he was transferred to the CIA who presided over a brutal interrogation in Egypt which led to information linking al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.  </div><div><br /></div><div>Some background here.  Egypt's prisons and its "enhanced interrogation techniques" were a breeding ground for terror, turning radicals like Ayman al-Zawahiri, a former surgeon often known as "the brains of al-Qaeda, into hardened jihadis for whom death became an all-consuming mission.  The Egyptian "techniques" included stripping people naked, tying them to chairs, and letting them be sodomized by wild dogs.  What better place, then, to take al-Libi for his special interrogation program in which the CIA were not-disinterested "observers." </div><div><br /></div><div>We don't know exactly what happened to al-Libi in Egypt but he was apparently waterboarded and much more. His ensuing confession about the links between al-Qaeda and Iraq later turned out to be false but only after his "intelligence" was used to make the case for the Iraq War.  </div><div><br /></div><div>Today, al-Libi would seem to be an ideal witness to try to understand whether or not "torture works," and, further, whether the Bush Administration used "enhanced interrogation techniques" to invent a rationale for invading Iraq. </div><div><br /></div><div>Alas, it appears to be too late. A Libyan newspaper reported last week that al-Libi recently died in a Libyan prison.  The cause of death? Suicide.  Oh really?  </div><div><br /></div><div>Human Rights Watch has called for an investigation.  I agree.  </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /><div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div></div>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>First Blog</title>
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    <id>tag:correspondents.theatlantic.com,2009:/alex_gibney//30.17055</id>

    <published>2009-05-04T13:02:51Z</published>
    <updated>2009-05-04T14:59:35Z</updated>

    <summary>This is my first Atlantic blog.   Hope I don&apos;t mess up.  The reputation of my brother (who is an editor at this magazine) is at stake. First of all, happy 90th birthday to Pete Seeger.   For all of you who...</summary>
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        <name>Alex Gibney</name>
        <uri>http://www.jigsawprods.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div>This is my first Atlantic blog.<span style="">  </span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Hope I don't mess up.<span style=""> 
</span>The reputation of my brother (who is an editor at this magazine) is at
stake.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">First of all, happy 90<sup>th</sup> birthday to Pete
Seeger.<span style="">   </span>For all of you who
haven't seen it, take a look at Seeger leading the Obama inauguration crowd -
and Bruce Springsteen - in a sing-a-long of "This Land Is Your Land," complete
with the two oft-excised verses:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 16pt;"><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: '-editor-proxy';">As
I went walking I saw a sign there  And on the sign it said "No
Trespassing."  But on the other side it didn't say nothing  That side was
made for you and me.</span></b></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: '-editor-proxy';">In the
shadow of the steeple I saw my people,  By the relief office I seen my people;  As
they stood there hungry, I stood there asking  Is this land made for you and
me?</span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thsKDYapXz4</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/thsKDYapXz4&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/thsKDYapXz4&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></object>

<p class="MsoNormal">My favorite moment is after this link ends when Seeger -
then only 89 years young - hops off the stage.<span style="">  </span>Another gig.<span style=""> 
</span>Gotta go!</p><p class="MsoNormal">What follows is a blurt (slightly longer than a blog) I started in response to a piece that
David Broder wrote in the Washington Post on April 26.<span style="">  </span>I should have posted it right away but
I was interrupted by a sudden production trip to New Mexico for a film I am
doing on Lance Armstrong.<span style=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">(Here's my favorite sign from the half-hippie/half rancher
culture of Gila, New Mexico): </p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="IMG_0299.JPG" src="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/alex_gibney/IMG_0299.JPG" class="mt-image-none" style="" width="600" height="800" /></span><p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> It's a poster advertising a "Gully workshop" - a special class to learn how to build better gullies on your ranch. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Anyway, the concerns of the rant below are related to
torture, the subject of a film I recently wrote and directed called "Taxi to
the Dark Side."<span style="">  </span>In recent days, I
have been surprised - and thrilled - that this issue has not gone away.<span style="">  </span>Obama had threatened to move on -
looking forward, not back, as he said.<span style=""> 
</span>But I really think that is a dangerous mistake.<span style="">  </span>We can't move forward until we reckon
with our past.<span style="">  </span>Thanks to the ACLU
and, for the moment, the Obama Administration, that reckoning is ongoing with
the release of key documents.<span style="">  </span>And
the Senate Armed Services Committee has produced a very important report that
shows ever more what many have suspected and charged: torture was not the work
of a few bad apples.<span style="">  </span>It<span style="">  </span>was a conscious policy by the Bush
Administration (though the "T-word" was never used") that, once set in motion,
mutated and migrated throughout the world like a virulent virus. There has been
much written by esteemed thinkers and writers about the need for a truth
commission or for prosecutions.<span style=""> 
</span>For some time, I didn't see the need to add to the ongoing commentary.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">But, for some reason, when I saw the Broder piece I flew
into a fury.<span style="">  </span>I don't know exactly
why.<span style="">  </span>Perhaps because Mr. Broder is
considered such a Washington sage and because his expressed view epitomized all
that is pitifully shallow in the professional political culture of Washington,
DC.<span style="">  </span>In essence, he said that there
should be no further investigation because, in essence, what the Bush
Administration did was "just politics." Any further investigation would be a
kind of political retribution that would just end up scapegoating a few bad
apples.<span style="">  </span>Therefore, said Broder, we
should just drop the whole matter and move on.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Well, I have to say that kind of logic made me ill.<span style="">  </span>So rather than mess up my work station
with a bilious discharge, I wrote what follows. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">David Broder's editorial, "Stop Scapegoating," is exactly
what is wrong with Washington.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>He
can no longer see matters of principle because his Beltway sunglasses are so
dark that everything takes on the shade of partisan politics. In his piece he
calls on Obama to resist the temptation to indict Bush Administration officials
or even to support a truth commission on torture because in that direction lies
political warfare.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Well, first of all, Obama shouldn't indict anyone.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>That's a job for the Department of
Justice - or, perhaps better, a special prosecutor.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">But Broder should look around.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>This is not an issue of left and right; it's an issue of
right and wrong.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>There are many
principled Republicans who have been rightly appalled by the war the Bush
Administration pursued a policy of torture.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>But Broder would turn the issue into a partisan political
one, instead of a matter of principle and law.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Also, he makes the cynical assertion that, since senior
officials will never be held to account, only underlings will be
convicted.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>So, his logic goes,
rather than punish a few minnows for the crimes of bigger fish, better to let
everyone off the hook.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">It is true - and ironic, considering Broder's argument -
that the Bush Administration did its own scapegoating: netting minnows like
Lynndie England in the Abu Ghraib investigations, while consciously avoiding
looking up the chain of command. But as more documents are revealed, and more
investigations are conducted, we can see that Abu Ghraib was a symptom of
reckless policy of torture and abuse pursued by the Bush Administration and its
political appointees in the Pentagon.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">If members of the Bush Administration have committed crimes,
then they should be held to account. No one is above the law, no matter how
much time they have spent inside the DC beltway.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">But let's take this one step further - Bush torture policy
was not just about breaking the law.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>It was about breaking the law to pursue partisan policy.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The recent report by the Senate Armed
Services Committee confirms that the Bush Administration, in the wake of the
9/11 attacks, was obsessed with establishing a connection between Iraq and Al
Qaeda.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>When traditional
intelligence gathering techniques failed to establish this link, Bush officials
turned to torture, with disastrous results.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">The most terrifying example, described in my film, "Taxi to
the Dark Side," is the case of Ibn al-Sheik al-Libi, a Libyan paramilitary
trainer for Al Qaeda. When al-Libi was captured he was interrogated by the
FBI's counter-terrorism unit at the Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Using traditional interrogation
techniques employed by experienced interrogators, al-Libi revealed good,
actionable intelligence, according to Jack Cloonan, a special agent for the
FBI's Bin Laden Unit.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But it
wasn't the "intelligence" that the Bush Administration wanted to hear.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>So the CIA took over, wrapped al-Libi
in duct tape and stuffed him in a small plywood box ("for his own protection")
and shipped him to Egypt where he was tortured until he "confessed" to a link
between al-Qaeda and Iraq.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>This
information was used by Colin Powell in has famous UN speech to make the case
for the invasion of Iraq.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Only one
problem: his torture-induced testimony was utterly false, as the CIA later
admitted.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">In the case of al-Libi, the Bush team used torture to
manufacture a rationale to invade Iraq.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>That would seem to be something worth investigating further. (And now we
have testimony from other members of the FBI's counter-terrorism unit noting
that, after the FBI got key information from Abu Zubaydah - including the
identity of Khalid Sheik Mohammed - the CIA stepped in and waterboarded
zubaydah 83 times which produced false alarms of attacks that were politically
useful for the Bush Administration but often wildly inaccurate.) So, it appears
that the Bush Administration used torture to manufacture lies because the truth
wasn't giving them what they wanted.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
</span>Instead "the torture team" reached into the dark closet of "enhanced
interrogation techniques," such as sleep deprivation, stress positions and
waterboarding, that the former Soviet Union and 50s-era Communist China had
used to extract false confessions for political purposes.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">In that sense, Broder is unintentionally on to
something.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>What the Bush
Administration did <i>was </i><span style="font-style:normal">political. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>But it was also, in my view, criminal:
using the power of the state to enforce their narrow partisan views - views, in
this case, that resulted in American casualties of more than 4000 dead and
29,000 wounded (not to mention the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis.) That's
supposed to be what we have the rule of law for - to prevent politicians from
corruptly abusing their power.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Yet in Broder's view, the decision to torture involves
political actors and, as such, is nothing more than part of the clubby, inside-the-beltway
tug of war between Republicans and Democrats. Torture has never been that kind
of issue.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Inside the congress and
outside, many Republicans have been offended by the Bush Administration's
policies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It is true that Cheney
and his myrmidons did use torture (while carefully avoiding the term itself) as
a campaign platform.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But their
posture on torture was not a Republican position, per se.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(And let's be honest: there were plenty
of Democrats who were silent enablers of torture.)<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>It was the action plan of a small cabal obsessed with
neoconservative ideas of foreign policy and notions of unchecked executive
power.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">    </span>So Obama would
be making a mistake if he ever characterizes torture as a Republican
issue.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>(That seems to be the
implication of Broder's piece however: let torture go unpunished precisely <i>because</i><span style="font-style:normal"> it was a Republican political platform.) Instead,
Obama would be wise to embrace the notion of a<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>non-partisan truth commission with subpoena power that would
draw members, outside the beltway, from the ranks of judges, scholars, human
rights groups, journalists and especially ex-military.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>No politicians.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">In closing, Broder said this: "...at some point, if he is at
all a man of honor, George W. Bush would feel bound to say: That was my policy.
I was the president. If you want to indict anyone for it, indict me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is that where we want to go?"</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">If we don't have the courage to go there, then we're being
taken for a ride in a taxi to another kind of dark side: Orwell territory -
that haunted place where crime and punishment is only at the service of the
party in power.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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